It is in my opinion (not so humble) that religion contributes greatly to a state in society which can be referred to as the patriarchy. In my society christianity is the dominant religion so I will concentrate on that. You have a book that you believe is the divinely inspired word of god. This book tells you that a woman should obey you as you obey the church (god?). How can you view this as anything other than sexism? If a woman should obey a man simply because of the penis or lack of penis status that is the definition of sexism. This opens up in society the validation of basing relationships on forcing the woman into a submissive role. The result of having these "divinely inspired" gender roles is rape, genital mutilation and a less important status for women in general, both throughout history and in society today. I think those who support this ideology have a lot to answer for, as it stands atm I am absolutely disgusted by this position.
Christianity is at its core a purely selfish ideology. People who follow the teachings of the bible rarely seem to think about how it impacts on anyone else, they are concerned merely with attaining a heavenly status in the afterlife. It is a mentality of well god said it has to be this way and if it causes these problems that is because people are sinners. I would like to say, if you are a christian that supports this ideology and other similar ideologies found within the bible, you are morally bankrupt and fail to take responsibility for your own thoughts and actions. Please fly to the moon and never return. That is all.
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"This book tells you that a woman should obey you as you obey the church (god?)"
ReplyDeleteThis is greatly misinterpreted by Christians. The Greek word for church is "ekklesia" = that which is called out, meaning the people that follow Christ, who are called to be Christ-like... Christ is NOT a bigot, not sexist, etc. so what it is really saying is treat others as you would treat Christ. Even if you want to look at it in sexist terms, Christ is a man...treat your wife as you would treat a man...of course that is problematic as well because of male on male violence, but still that is not how Christ treated others, and these people that are "called out" are called to be Christ-like.
That is interesting
ReplyDeleteHowever it doesn't really matter if it isn't the proper interpretation it is still what is adopted into christian doctrine
I'm not sure what you're saying when you say interpretation doesn't matter...it matters greatly if you are to claim yourself to be a Christian to get it right...All I'm saying is Christians are wrong for using that scripture as a way to see the wife beneath the husband, when that is NOT at ALL what it is saying...it's a surface way of reading the bible..something Christians do a LOT of... I would sure want to bring that up in an argument to a Christian if they were to tell me it says the wife is to obey the husband...The picture that is normally painted is obey because I'm a man...the picture that should be painted is obey because I obey you...Which one would hope, is something that would come naturally out of respect for one another, rather than a bartering of kindness...does she have to obey because he obeys her? Not necessarily...if he is being Christ-like and truly unselfish, she MAY feel so inclined to obey, but really what are the chances he is unselfish? (slim to none) The bible in this case describes something we should aspire to....not something we already are....it's an ongoing process, not a means to an end..that is precisely what most Christians use it for a means to an end...not an ongoing process.
ReplyDeleteI am merely saying that your individual interpretation has no relevance to my point. The point is this is the generally accepted position within christianity.
ReplyDeleteAlso as a side note the right interpretation doesn't matter so much as the most agreed upon interpretation, in regards to the bible at least.
Well in a way my interpretation doesn't matter and it does...if more people had my interpretation I think it would be beneficial, but the bible in general can be said to be interpreted many ways...but my way takes into account the context of the bible in the age it was written..so I could argue my way is the right way...but that could lead to a slippery slope...basically this is why I interact less with Christians, but am still perfectly happy to call myself a believer in Christ...I wouldn't call myself a Christian in most senses because I disagree with most mainstream Christian ideals...Christians do not act as Christ, and they are very hypocritical. I'm not at all arguing that how most Christians perceive the bible is screwed up...as a matter of fact I'm providing proof...they read the bible completely out of context, and refuse to see it, that is what I'm saying.
ReplyDeleteI agree to an extent. You could argue that your interpretation takes the contexxt into account but so could someone who disagrees with you. At the end of the day it is a book and everyone is going to view it differently. It is hard for me to say or even theologians to say which way is right or wrong. Although obviously in my opinion all christians are interpreting it wrong as I don't beieve in god.
ReplyDeleteWell...I'm not going to argue about that because I simply just agree, even though I do believe in God... *shrugs*
ReplyDeleteI am happy to leave it there.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I wouldn't mind a debate about the existence of god :P